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Changing NBN providers

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:33 am
by Rain
Looking at moving from my current provider to another provider so i'm doing research by looking glasses for providers i have interest in joining

https://vic.speedtest.leaptel.com.au/lg/
https://lg.superloop.com/lg/lg.cgi
https://lg.launtel.net.au/

based on these test ips where my own boxes are hosted from there own website

Host Provider- Crowncloud StorageVPS test IP
Data center Werkhaus (Frankfurt am Main)
IPv4: 212.224.70.16
IPv6: 2a01:7e0::212:224:70:16

Host Provider- SpartanHost - StorageVPS test ip
Server Location: Dallas, Texas
Test IPv4: 104.194.219.3
Test IPv6: 2604:9cc0:400:1::2

Host Provider- NexusBytes - StorageVPS test ip
Server Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
IPv4 Address: 158.51.84.9
IPv6 Address: 2602:fed2:7106:4818:0000:0000:0000:0001

(Looking at Leaptel/Launtel/SuperLoop for next provider)

Current Provider below Future Broadband

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(Future Broadband Tests)
Data center Werkhaus (Frankfurt am Main)
Tracing route to lg.first-colo.net [212.224.70.16]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  3    10 ms     9 ms     9 ms  au-ns-1813-ipg-01-eth2-2006.tpgi.com.au [203.220.35.41]
  4    13 ms    12 ms    12 ms  syd-gls-har-int1-hu0-3-0-3.tpgi.com.au [203.221.3.67]
  5   156 ms   156 ms   158 ms  las-b24-link.telia.net [213.248.95.232]
  6     *      166 ms   166 ms  palo-b24-link.telia.net [62.115.119.90]
  7   316 ms   316 ms   315 ms  telia.edge2.fra3.de.first-colo.net [62.115.161.107]
  8   316 ms   314 ms   314 ms  ae1.3904.ce2.fra1.de.first-colo.net [212.224.104.9]
  9   327 ms   315 ms   314 ms  lg.first-colo.net [212.224.70.16]
Trace complete.

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Server Location: Dallas, Texas
Tracing route to 104.194.219.3 over a maximum of 30 hops
  3    21 ms    10 ms     9 ms  au-ns-0397-ipg-01-eth2-2006.tpgi.com.au [203.220.35.37]
  4    13 ms    10 ms    13 ms  syd-apt-ros-int2-be100.tpgi.com.au [203.29.134.4]
  5   164 ms   167 ms   165 ms  sjo-b21-link.telia.net [213.248.86.188]
  6   164 ms   164 ms   165 ms  ntt-ic-323771-sjo-b21.c.telia.net [62.115.12.53]
  7   166 ms   167 ms   177 ms  ae-10.r25.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.174]
  8   227 ms   229 ms   226 ms  ae-5.r25.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.4.155]
  9   226 ms   227 ms   226 ms  ae-6.r10.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.4]
 10   215 ms   215 ms   216 ms  ae-0.profuse-solutions.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [168.143.228.107]
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12   218 ms   217 ms   217 ms  edge-dallas.as50131.net [104.149.238.130]
 13   216 ms   216 ms   216 ms  104.194.219.3
Trace complete.

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Server Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Tracing route to lgla.nexusbytes.com [158.51.84.9]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  3    10 ms     9 ms    10 ms  au-ns-1813-ipg-01-eth2-2006.tpgi.com.au [203.220.35.41]
  4    10 ms    15 ms    14 ms  syd-gls-har-int2-be200.tpgi.com.au [203.221.3.68]
  5   166 ms   168 ms   166 ms  206.72.211.240.any2ix.coresite.com [206.72.211.240]
  6   170 ms   167 ms   167 ms  172.16.40.2
  7   169 ms   166 ms   166 ms  lgla.nexusbytes.com [158.51.84.9]
Trace complete.
Leaptel Below

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LeapTel Test below 

Router: New South Wales
Command: /tool traceroute 212.224.70.16 size=60 count=1
traceroute to 212.224.70.16 (lg.first-colo.net), 64 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1 ip-103-85-36-9.syd.xi.com.au (103.85.36.9) [AS 134090] 0.2ms 0.2ms 0.2ms
 2 static-77.110.255.49.in-addr.VOCUS.net.au (49.255.110.77) [AS 4826] 0.8ms 0.8ms 0.8ms
 3 be112.cor01.syd11.nsw.vocus.network (114.31.192.38) [AS 4826] 155.2ms 155.2ms 155.2ms
 4 be202.bdr04.sjc01.ca.us.vocus.network (114.31.199.41) [AS 4826] 155.4ms 155.4ms 155.4ms
 5 sjo-b21-link.telia.net (62.115.166.80) [AS 1299] 155.6ms 155.6ms 155.6ms
 6 nyk-bb3-link.telia.net (213.155.130.128) [AS 1299] 323.5ms 323.5ms 323.5ms
 7 ldn-bb4-link.telia.net (62.115.112.245) [AS 1299] 309.3ms 309.3ms 309.3ms
 8 prs-bb4-link.telia.net (62.115.114.229) [AS 1299] 309.2ms 309.2ms 309.2ms
 9 ffm-bb2-link.telia.net (62.115.122.139) [AS 1299] 311.7ms 311.7ms 311.7ms
10 ffm-b1-link.telia.net (62.115.121.11) [AS 1299] 311.4ms 311.4ms 311.4ms
11 telia.edge2.fra3.de.first-colo.net (62.115.161.107) [AS 1299] 301.9ms 301.9ms 301.9ms
12 ae1.3904.ce2.fra1.de.first-colo.net (212.224.104.9) [AS 44066] 300.7ms 300.7ms 300.7ms
13 lg.first-colo.net (212.224.70.16) [AS 44066] 300.6ms 300.6ms 300.6ms

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Router: New South Wales
Command: /tool traceroute 104.194.219.3 size=60 count=1

traceroute to 104.194.219.3 (104.194.219.3), 64 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1 ip-103-85-36-9.syd.xi.com.au (103.85.36.9) [AS 134090] 0.2ms 0.2ms 0.2ms
 2 static-77.110.255.49.in-addr.VOCUS.net.au (49.255.110.77) [AS 4826] 0.7ms 0.7ms 0.7ms
 3 be112.cor02.syd04.nsw.vocus.network (114.31.192.36) [AS 4826] 148.6ms 148.6ms 148.6ms
 4 be202.bdr03.sjc01.ca.us.vocus.network (114.31.199.43) [AS 4826] 149ms 149ms 149ms
 5 173.205.35.1 (173.205.35.1) [AS 3257] 155.9ms 155.9ms 155.9ms
 6 ae12.cr7-dal3.ip4.gtt.net (213.200.120.106) [AS 3257] 185.6ms 185.6ms 185.6ms
 7 ae3.tinet-dal.AS40676.net (104.216.247.69) [AS 40676] 184.7ms 184.7ms 184.7ms
 8 * * *
 9 edge-dallas.as50131.net (104.149.238.130) [AS 40676] 185.8ms 185.8ms 185.8ms
10 104.194.219.3 (104.194.219.3) [AS 201106] 184.8ms 184.8ms 184.8ms

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Router: New South Wales
Command: /tool traceroute 158.51.84.9 size=60 count=1

traceroute to 158.51.84.9 (lgla.nexusbytes.com), 64 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1 ip-103-85-36-9.syd.xi.com.au (103.85.36.9) [AS 134090] 0.2ms 0.2ms 0.2ms
 2 static-77.110.255.49.in-addr.VOCUS.net.au (49.255.110.77) [AS 4826] 0.9ms 0.9ms 0.9ms
 3 be112.cor02.syd04.nsw.vocus.network (114.31.192.36) [AS 4826] 156.4ms 156.4ms 156.4ms
 4 be202.bdr03.sjc01.ca.us.vocus.network (114.31.199.43) [AS 4826] 156.7ms 156.7ms 156.7ms
 5 be101.bdr03.lax01.ca.us.vocus.network (114.31.199.35) [AS 4826] 156.5ms 156.5ms 156.5ms
 6 206.72.211.240.any2ix.coresite.com (206.72.211.240) [AS 46887] 157.1ms 157.1ms 157.1ms
 7 * * *
 8 lgla.nexusbytes.com (158.51.84.9) [AS 23470] 157ms 157ms 157ms
SuperLoop test below

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Router: [SYD] Equinix SY1
Command: traceroute ipv4 212.224.70.16 source lo0

Tracing the route to 212.224.70.16

 1   * 
    fortygige0-0-1-0.bdr01-ipt-4edenpar-syd.au.superloop.com (103.200.13.175) [MPLS: Label 24031 Exp 0] 93 msec  93 msec 
 2  hundredgige0-0-1-2-126.bdr01-ipt-4millros-per.au.superloop.com (103.200.13.153) [MPLS: Label 64012 Exp 0] 93 msec  93 msec  * 
 3  fortygige0-0-1-2-132.bdr01-ipt-15pionee-sin.sg.superloop.com (202.177.40.22) 93 msec  93 msec  93 msec 
 4  te0-0-2-1.rcr11.b057205-0.sin01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.18.3.89) 93 msec  94 msec  93 msec 
 5  be2070.ccr21.sin01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.40.13) 93 msec  94 msec  93 msec 
 6  be2435.ccr21.mrs01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.109) 226 msec 
    be3429.ccr22.mrs01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.85.17) 230 msec 
    be2435.ccr21.mrs01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.109) 226 msec 
 7  be3093.ccr42.par01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.50.165) 241 msec  241 msec 
    be3092.ccr41.par01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.49.153) 237 msec 
 8  be2799.ccr41.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.58.233) 246 msec  246 msec  246 msec 
 9  be2846.rcr22.fra06.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.37.30) 251 msec  249 msec  249 msec 
 10 149.14.210.66 247 msec  245 msec  247 msec 
 11 ae1.3904.ce2.fra1.de.first-colo.net (212.224.104.9) 247 msec  248 msec  248 msec 
 12 lg.first-colo.net (212.224.70.16) 245 msec  245 msec  245 msec

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Router: [SYD] Equinix SY1
Command: traceroute ipv4 104.194.219.3 source lo0

Tracing the route to 104.194.219.3

 1  fortygige0-0-1-0.bdr01-ipt-47bourke-syd.au.superloop.com (103.200.13.229) [MPLS: Label 24055 Exp 0] 150 msec  149 msec  149 msec 
 2  hundredgige0-0-1-2-120.bdr01-ipt-624sgran-lax.us.superloop.com (103.200.13.168) 149 msec  149 msec  149 msec 
 3  las-b24-link.telia.net (62.115.179.16) 149 msec  149 msec  154 msec 
 4  ntt-ic-326358-las-b24.c.telia.net (213.248.103.171) 149 msec  150 msec  150 msec 
 5  ae-3.r22.lsanca07.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.122) [MPLS: Label 704371 Exp 0] 172 msec  162 msec  156 msec 
 6  ae-3.r24.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.7.68) [MPLS: Label 456 Exp 0] 193 msec  200 msec  196 msec 
 7  ae-2.r10.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.82) 192 msec  192 msec  189 msec 
 8  ae-0.profuse-solutions.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (168.143.228.107) 192 msec  192 msec  192 msec 
 9   *  *  * 
 10 edge-dallas.as50131.net (104.149.238.130) 190 msec  196 msec  190 msec 
 11 104.194.219.3 189 msec  192 msec  189 msec

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Router: [SYD] Equinix SY1
Command: traceroute ipv4 158.51.84.9 source lo0

Tracing the route to 158.51.84.9

 1  fortygige0-0-1-0.bdr01-ipt-47bourke-syd.au.superloop.com (103.200.13.229) [MPLS: Label 24055 Exp 0] 150 msec  149 msec  149 msec 
 2  hundredgige0-0-1-2-120.bdr01-ipt-624sgran-lax.us.superloop.com (103.200.13.168) 149 msec  149 msec  149 msec 
 3  206.72.211.240.any2ix.coresite.com (206.72.211.240) 149 msec  149 msec  150 msec 
 4   *  *  * 
 5  lgla.nexusbytes.com (158.51.84.9) 149 msec  149 msec  150 msec
Launtel Below

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Command: tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="212.224.70.16" interface=vlan-backbone

 1 somnus.launtel.net.au              0%    1   0.2ms     0.2     0.2     0.2
 2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au     0%    1  18.3ms    18.3    18.3    18.3
 3 sy5.gslnetworks.com.au             0%    1  14.9ms    14.9    14.9    14.9
 4 la2.gslnetworks.com                0%    1 143.7ms   143.7   143.7   143.7
 5 te0-1-0-10.rcr21.b020604-0.la...   0%    1 143.5ms   143.5   143.5   143.5
 6 be2197.ccr41.lax01.atlas.coge...   0%    1 143.4ms   143.4   143.4   143.4
 7 be2931.ccr31.phx01.atlas.coge...   0%    1 155.3ms   155.3   155.3   155.3
 8 be2929.ccr21.elp01.atlas.coge...   0%    1 163.2ms   163.2   163.2   163.2
 9 be2927.ccr41.iah01.atlas.coge...   0%    1   179ms     179     179     179
10 be2687.ccr41.atl01.atlas.coge...   0%    1 194.1ms   194.1   194.1   194.1
11 be2112.ccr41.dca01.atlas.coge...   0%    1 204.8ms   204.8   204.8   204.8
12 be2331.ccr31.bio02.atlas.coge...   0%    1 257.4ms   257.4   257.4   257.4
13 be2315.ccr41.par01.atlas.coge...   0%    1 256.6ms   256.6   256.6   256.6
14 be2799.ccr41.fra03.atlas.coge...   0%    1   266ms     266     266     266
15 be2845.rcr22.fra06.atlas.coge...   0%    1 268.6ms   268.6   268.6   268.6
16 149.14.210.66                      0%    1 265.5ms   265.5   265.5   265.5
17 ae1.3904.ce2.fra1.de.first-co...   0%    1 268.6ms   268.6   268.6   268.6
18                                  100%    1 timeout
19 lg.first-colo.net                  0%    1 265.6ms   265.6   265.6   265.6

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Command: tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="104.194.219.3" interface=vlan-backbone

 1 somnus.launtel.net.au              0%    1   0.1ms     0.1     0.1     0.1
 2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au     0%    1  10.2ms    10.2    10.2    10.2
 3 sy5.gslnetworks.com.au             0%    1  10.7ms    10.7    10.7    10.7
 4 la2.gslnetworks.com                0%    1 143.6ms   143.6   143.6   143.6
 5 64.124.129.52                      0%    1 143.4ms   143.4   143.4   143.4
 6 zayo.ntt.ter1.lax12.us.zip.za...   0%    1 143.6ms   143.6   143.6   143.6
 7                                  100%    1 timeout
 8 ae-7.r22.lsanca07.us.bb.gin.n...   0%    1 144.7ms   144.7   144.7   144.7
 9 ae-3.r24.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.n...   0%    1 185.8ms   185.8   185.8   185.8
10 ae-2.r10.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.n...   0%    1 185.4ms   185.4   185.4   185.4
11 ae-0.profuse-solutions.dllstx...   0%    1 184.9ms   184.9   184.9   184.9
12                                  100%    1 timeout
13 edge-dallas.as50131.net            0%    1 186.4ms   186.4   186.4   186.4
14 104.194.219.3                      0%    1 186.2ms   186.2   186.2   186.2

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Command: tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="158.51.84.9" interface=vlan-backbone

 1 somnus.launtel.net.au              0%    1   0.2ms     0.2     0.2     0.2
 2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au     0%    1  10.5ms    10.5    10.5    10.5
 3 sy5.gslnetworks.com.au             0%    1  10.3ms    10.3    10.3    10.3
 4 la2.gslnetworks.com                0%    1 144.1ms   144.1   144.1   144.1
 5 206.72.211.240                     0%    1 143.4ms   143.4   143.4   143.4
 6 172.16.38.2                        0%    1   144ms     144     144     144
 7 lgla.nexusbytes.com                0%    1   144ms     144     144     144

I'll do my gaming Tests server now below

Re: Changing NBN providers

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:47 am
by Rain
BattleNet Servers ips: 24.105.30.129 and 24.105.62.129

Leaptel below

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Router: New South Wales
Command: /tool traceroute 24.105.30.129 size=60 count=1

traceroute to 24.105.30.129 (24.105.30.129), 64 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1 equinixix.syd.xi.com.au (103.85.36.6) [AS 134090] 0.2ms 0.2ms 0.2ms
 2 57976.syd.equinix.com (45.127.173.41) [] 7.4ms 7.4ms 7.4ms
 3 et-0-0-49-br01-eqsy4.as57976.net (137.221.85.47) [AS 57976] 145.3ms 145.3ms 145.3ms
 4 xe-0-0-1-0-br01.csla1.as57976.net (137.221.65.96) [AS 57976] 145.9ms 145.9ms 145.9ms
 5 * * *
 6 137.221.68.77 (137.221.68.77) [AS 57976] 144.8ms 144.8ms 144.8ms
 7 24.105.30.129 (24.105.30.129) [AS 57976] 145.4ms 145.4ms 145.4ms

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Router: New South Wales
Command: /tool traceroute 24.105.62.129 size=60 count=1

traceroute to 24.105.62.129 (24.105.62.129), 64 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1 equinixix.syd.xi.com.au (103.85.36.6) [AS 134090] 0.2ms 0.2ms 0.2ms
 2 57976.syd.equinix.com (45.127.173.41) [] 4.5ms 4.5ms 4.5ms
 3 et-0-0-49-br01-eqsy4.as57976.net (137.221.85.47) [AS 57976] 282ms 282ms 282ms
 4 xe-0-0-1-0-br01.csla1.as57976.net (137.221.65.96) [AS 57976] 191ms 191ms 191ms
 5 * * *
 6 * * *
 7 * * *
 8 et-0-0-0-pe01-eqch2.as57976.net (137.221.69.47) [AS 57976] 192.8ms 192.8ms 192.8ms
 9 24.105.62.129 (24.105.62.129) [AS 57976] 191.8ms 191.8ms 191.8ms
(Couldn't test SuperLoop it started off tracing then lots of * * * so maybe it isn't working) - someone else wants to do traceroute from Sydney NSW if possible and let me know Please IPS are there


Launtel below

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Command: tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="24.105.30.129" interface=vlan-backbone

 1 somnus.launtel.net.au              0%    1   0.2ms     0.2     0.2     0.2
 2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au     0%    1  10.1ms    10.1    10.1    10.1
 3 sy5.gslnetworks.com.au             0%    1  10.7ms    10.7    10.7    10.7
 4 la2.gslnetworks.com                0%    1 143.6ms   143.6   143.6   143.6
 5 206.72.211.247.any2ix.coresit...   0%    1 144.8ms   144.8   144.8   144.8
 6 ae1-br02-csla1.as57976.net         0%    1 144.4ms   144.4   144.4   144.4
 7 xe-0-0-1-3-br02-eqla1.as57976...   0%    1 143.6ms   143.6   143.6   143.6
 8 137.221.68.91                      0%    1   144ms     144     144     144
 9 137.221.66.7                       0%    1 144.1ms   144.1   144.1   144.1
10 24.105.30.129                      0%    1 154.9ms   154.9   154.9   154.9

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Command: tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="24.105.62.129" interface=vlan-backbone

 1 somnus.launtel.net.au              0%    1   0.2ms     0.2     0.2     0.2
 2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au     0%    1    10ms      10      10      10
 3 sy5.gslnetworks.com.au             0%    1  10.5ms    10.5    10.5    10.5
 4 la2.gslnetworks.com                0%    1 143.6ms   143.6   143.6   143.6
 5 206.72.211.247.any2ix.coresit...   0%    1 144.3ms   144.3   144.3   144.3
 6 ae1-br01-csla1.as57976.net         0%    1 190.9ms   190.9   190.9   190.9
 7                                  100%    1 timeout
 8                                  100%    1 timeout
 9                                  100%    1 timeout
10 et-0-0-0-pe04-eqch2.as57976.net    0%    1 190.4ms   190.4   190.4   190.4
11                                  100%    1 timeout
12                                  100%    1 timeout
13                                  100%    1 timeout
14                                  100%    1 timeout
15                                  100%    1 timeout

Re: Changing NBN providers

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:49 am
by Wamuran4512CH
May I suggest using the code quotes ??

For example:

tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="24.105.62.129" interface=vlan-backbone
1 somnus.launtel.net.au 0% 1 0.2ms 0.2 0.2 0.2
2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au 0% 1 10.5ms 10.5 10.5 10.5
3 sy5.gslnetworks.com.au 0% 1 10.3ms 10.3 10.3 10.3
4 la2.gslnetworks.com 0% 1 144.1ms 144.1 144.1 144.1
5 206.72.211.240 0% 1 143.4ms 143.4 143.4 143.4
6 172.16.38.2 0% 1 144ms 144 144 144
7 lgla.nexusbytes.com 0% 1 144ms 144 144 144
[*]

to

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tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="24.105.62.129" interface=vlan-backbone

1 somnus.launtel.net.au 0% 1 0.2ms 0.2 0.2 0.2
2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au 0% 1 10.5ms 10.5 10.5 10.5
3 sy5.gslnetworks.com.au 0% 1 10.3ms 10.3 10.3 10.3
4 la2.gslnetworks.com 0% 1 144.1ms 144.1 144.1 144.1
5 206.72.211.240 0% 1 143.4ms 143.4 143.4 143.4
6 172.16.38.2 0% 1 144ms 144 144 144
7 lgla.nexusbytes.com 0% 1 144ms 144 144 144
[*]
And add TAGS

The Submarine Cablemap might be a useful accompanying tool
Congrats on your mastery of IP tools such as tracert / traceroute for VPS / Linux etc!

More on here: https://www.internode.on.net/support/fa ... aceroutes/

OSI Layers might be handy too:

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Re: Changing NBN providers

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:03 am
by Rain
Fixed, still getting used to this forum :beer

Re: Changing NBN providers

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:05 am
by Wamuran4512CH
Rain wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:03 am Fixed, still getting used to this forum :beer
Don't be a stranger to the Thanks / Like buttons too ! :mrgreen:

Re: Changing NBN providers

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:17 am
by Wamuran4512CH
Rain wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:47 am
lots of * * * so maybe it isn't working
All implementations of traceroute rely on ICMP (type 11) packets being sent to the originator.
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More: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_ ... e_Protocol

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This basically means that when a hop that outputs * * * it means that the router at that hop doesn't respond to the type of packet you were using for the traceroute (by default it's UDP on Unix-like and ICMP on Windows) and / or the router is configured to ignore ( or deprioritise ) ICMP ( which is possible )

More:

https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/tracero ... ng-meaning

NBN provides Layer 2 services only, which don't respond to trace routes and are not able to be pinged by end-users. The hop immediately after your home router will be equipment that belongs to your RSP ( Layer 3 ), not NBN. This isn't a recent change, rather it is fundamentally baked into the design of NBN.

Functionally there isn't any obligation for an RSP to have their equipment respond to traceroutes/ICMP. Depending on it isn't a good idea.

MPLS adds further to the issue:

https://www.internode.on.net/support/fa ... raceroute/

Re: Changing NBN providers

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:58 am
by Dawn Thunder
Whilst you are looking for specific results to specific locations and of course using these tools well inform who you go with.

My thoughts of changing ISP really end up being around price, what people actually report and customer service. The reason I like to try and get a report from an actual user is how variable the performance get get depending on location and how 'busy' the ISP is in that location. What is experienced in Melb might not be what is experienced in Syd when it comes to pings, routes and speed.

A favorite punching bag for some is the use of Vocus in a network. My personal experience when I was at two ISP's that used them was good speeds and performance 24/7. The only issues I did have was around churning to them, that in both instances took half a day due to a glacially slow churn process. But that was quickly forgotten and it was pretty smooth sailing from then on.

I guess, all we can do is a reasonable amount of due diligence, get a bit of a gut feeling about who we want to go with and letting it rip. Putting the Vocus churn process aside (may well be much improved by now anyway) it is really easy to move to a new ISP under the NBN. I guess if we are drawing up a list some thing to include in the consideration might be, Contracts, Cancellation clauses (some require 14 days for example) and sign up fees, and referral savings that we might want to consider.

Good luck with the search and I can see a wealth of information being provided as you search for a new internet home.

Re: Changing NBN providers

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:24 pm
by Rain
Games i play without VPN (Future Broadband routing Sydney NSW)

StarCraft II
Region IP Address
The Americas
24.105.30.129 (US West)
24.105.62.129 (US Central)

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Tracing route to 24.105.30.129 over a maximum of 30 hops
  3    10 ms     9 ms     9 ms  au-ns-0397-ipg-01-eth2-2006.tpgi.com.au [203.220.35.37]
  4    12 ms    10 ms    11 ms  203.29.134-68.tpgi.com.au [203.29.134.68]
  5   165 ms   165 ms   165 ms  sjo-b21-link.telia.net [213.248.86.188]
  6   163 ms   163 ms   164 ms  las-b21-link.telia.net [62.115.116.41]
  7   172 ms   171 ms   201 ms  blizzard-ic-348621-las-b21.c.telia.net [62.115.178.201]
  8   278 ms   218 ms   218 ms  ae1-br01-eqla1.as57976.net [137.221.68.33]
  9   166 ms   164 ms   165 ms  137.221.68.79
 10   166 ms   167 ms   166 ms  lax-eqla1-ia-bons-02.as57976.net [137.221.66.3]
 11   164 ms   165 ms   165 ms  24.105.30.129
Trace complete.

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Tracing route to 24.105.62.129 over a maximum of 30 hops
  3     9 ms    10 ms     9 ms  au-ns-1813-ipg-01-eth2-2006.tpgi.com.au [203.220.35.41]
  4    12 ms    14 ms    15 ms  syd-gls-har-int1-hu0-3-0-3.tpgi.com.au [203.221.3.67]
  5   156 ms   157 ms   159 ms  las-b24-link.telia.net [213.248.95.232]
  6   157 ms   158 ms   158 ms  blizzard-ic-348620-las-b24.c.telia.net [62.115.178.247]
  7   202 ms   202 ms   227 ms  ae1-br02-csla1.as57976.net [137.221.89.35]
  8   202 ms   201 ms   216 ms  xe-0-0-1-3-br02-eqla1.as57976.net [137.221.65.36]
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10   204 ms   205 ms   203 ms  et-0-0-1-pe04-eqch2.as57976.net [137.221.69.79]
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 17     *        *        *     Request timed out.
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 19     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 20     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 21     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 22     *        *        *     Request timed out.
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 24     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 25     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 26     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 27     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 28     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 29     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 30     *        *        *     Request timed out.
League of Legends online
Servers: NA - IP: 104.160.131.3

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Tracing route to 104.160.131.3 over a maximum of 30 hops
  3     9 ms     9 ms     9 ms  au-ns-0397-ipg-01-eth2-2006.tpgi.com.au [203.220.35.37]
  4    10 ms     9 ms    10 ms  203.29.134-82.tpgi.com.au [203.29.134.82]
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 17     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 18     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 19     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 20     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 21     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 22     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 23     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 24     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 25     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 26     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 27     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 28     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 29     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 30     *        *        *     Request timed out.
Trace complete.
OverWatch Servers
24.105.30.129 (US West) & 24.105.62.129 (US Central)

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Tracing route to 24.105.30.129 over a maximum of 30 hops
  3     9 ms    10 ms     9 ms  au-ns-0397-ipg-01-eth2-2006.tpgi.com.au [203.220.35.37]
  4    14 ms    12 ms    10 ms  203.29.134-68.tpgi.com.au [203.29.134.68]
  5   165 ms   165 ms   171 ms  sjo-b21-link.telia.net [213.248.86.188]
  6   165 ms   164 ms   164 ms  las-b21-link.telia.net [62.115.116.41]
  7   171 ms   171 ms   171 ms  blizzard-ic-348621-las-b21.c.telia.net [62.115.178.201]
  8   218 ms   219 ms   216 ms  ae1-br01-eqla1.as57976.net [137.221.68.33]
  9   172 ms   164 ms   164 ms  137.221.68.79
 10   165 ms   166 ms   166 ms  lax-eqla1-ia-bons-02.as57976.net [137.221.66.3]
 11   165 ms   165 ms   165 ms  24.105.30.129
Trace complete.

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Tracing route to 24.105.62.129 over a maximum of 30 hops
  3    14 ms    10 ms    10 ms  au-ns-1813-ipg-01-eth2-2006.tpgi.com.au [203.220.35.41]
  4    18 ms    14 ms    13 ms  syd-gls-har-int1-hu0-3-0-3.tpgi.com.au [203.221.3.67]
  5   158 ms   157 ms   156 ms  las-b24-link.telia.net [213.248.95.232]
  6   159 ms   158 ms   158 ms  blizzard-ic-348620-las-b24.c.telia.net [62.115.178.247]
  7   202 ms   202 ms   201 ms  ae1-br02-csla1.as57976.net [137.221.89.35]
  8   214 ms   215 ms   202 ms  xe-0-0-1-3-br02-eqla1.as57976.net [137.221.65.36]
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10   205 ms   204 ms   205 ms  et-0-0-1-pe04-eqch2.as57976.net [137.221.69.79]
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
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 20     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 21     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 22     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 23     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 24     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 25     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 26     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 27     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 28     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 29     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 30     *        *        *     Request timed out.
Trace complete.
Diablo 3 Server ip: 24.105.30.129

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Tracing route to 24.105.30.129 over a maximum of 30 hops
  3    17 ms    11 ms    10 ms  au-ns-0397-ipg-01-eth2-2006.tpgi.com.au [203.220.35.37]
  4    19 ms    11 ms    11 ms  203.29.134-68.tpgi.com.au [203.29.134.68]
  5   167 ms   165 ms   165 ms  sjo-b21-link.telia.net [213.248.86.188]
  6   197 ms   165 ms   165 ms  las-b21-link.telia.net [62.115.116.41]
  7   171 ms   171 ms   203 ms  blizzard-ic-348621-las-b21.c.telia.net [62.115.178.201]
  8   243 ms   217 ms   219 ms  ae1-br01-eqla1.as57976.net [137.221.68.33]
  9   165 ms   164 ms   164 ms  137.221.68.79
 10   165 ms   165 ms   167 ms  lax-eqla1-ia-bons-02.as57976.net [137.221.66.3]
 11   165 ms   165 ms   165 ms  24.105.30.129
Trace complete.
World of warcraft servers:
The Americas
137.221.105.2 (US West)
24.105.62.129 (US Central)

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Tracing route to 137.221.105.2 over a maximum of 30 hops
  3     9 ms     9 ms     9 ms  au-ns-1813-ipg-01-eth2-2006.tpgi.com.au [203.220.35.41]
  4     9 ms    14 ms    12 ms  syd-gls-har-int1-hu0-3-0-3.tpgi.com.au [203.221.3.67]
  5   156 ms   164 ms   156 ms  las-b24-link.telia.net [213.248.95.232]
  6   158 ms   157 ms   158 ms  blizzard-ic-348620-las-b24.c.telia.net [62.115.178.247]
  7   163 ms   163 ms   162 ms  ae1-br01-csla1.as57976.net [137.221.89.33]
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10   163 ms   163 ms   163 ms  et-0-0-0-pe01-swlv10.as57976.net [137.221.83.81]
 11   162 ms   162 ms   163 ms  137.221.105.2
Trace complete.

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Tracing route to 24.105.62.129 over a maximum of 30 hops
  3    10 ms    10 ms    11 ms  au-ns-1813-ipg-01-eth2-2006.tpgi.com.au [203.220.35.41]
  4    15 ms    15 ms    14 ms  syd-gls-har-int1-hu0-3-0-3.tpgi.com.au [203.221.3.67]
  5   156 ms   162 ms   156 ms  las-b24-link.telia.net [213.248.95.232]
  6   157 ms   156 ms   157 ms  blizzard-ic-348620-las-b24.c.telia.net [62.115.178.247]
  7   209 ms   201 ms   201 ms  ae1-br02-csla1.as57976.net [137.221.89.35]
  8   202 ms   205 ms   219 ms  xe-0-0-1-3-br02-eqla1.as57976.net [137.221.65.36]
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10   203 ms   204 ms   203 ms  et-0-0-1-pe04-eqch2.as57976.net [137.221.69.79]
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 17     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 18     *        *        *     Request timed out.
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 24     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 25     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 26     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 27     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 28     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 29     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 30     *        *        *     Request timed out.
Trace complete.
International with Future Broadband (AAPT) TPG isn't the best of times so it seems

Re: Changing NBN providers

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:33 pm
by Rain
Testing SeedBox Provider (Future Broadband Connection Sydney NSW)
Test IP: 5.79.68.79

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Tracing route to hosted-by.seedhost.eu [5.79.68.79]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  3    12 ms    10 ms    12 ms  au-ns-1813-ipg-01-eth2-2006.tpgi.com.au [203.220.35.41]
  4    11 ms    15 ms    15 ms  syd-gls-har-int1-he0-3-0-2.tpgi.com.au [203.221.3.3]
  5   157 ms   156 ms   157 ms  las-b24-link.telia.net [213.248.95.232]
  6   213 ms   217 ms   213 ms  ash-bb2-link.telia.net [62.115.121.221]
  7   289 ms   289 ms   295 ms  prs-bb3-link.telia.net [62.115.112.243]
  8   295 ms   293 ms   292 ms  adm-bb3-link.telia.net [62.115.121.154]
  9   281 ms   281 ms   287 ms  adm-b6-link.telia.net [62.115.116.125]
 10   286 ms   285 ms   283 ms  leaseweb-ic-308104-adm-b3.c.telia.net [62.115.48.210]
 11   322 ms   323 ms   318 ms  be-11.cr02.ams-01.nl.leaseweb.net [81.17.34.23]
 12   316 ms   317 ms   317 ms  po-1006.ce02.ams-01.nl.leaseweb.net [81.17.33.143]
 13   320 ms   319 ms   315 ms  hosted-by.seedhost.eu [5.79.68.79]
Trace complete.
Speedtest to Amsterdam Tilaa B.V.
https://www.speedtest.net/result/10231129569
https://www.speedtest.net/result/10231129569.png

Re: Changing NBN providers

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:17 pm
by Rain
Testing SeedBox Provider
Test IP: 5.79.68.79

Leaptel Below

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Router: New South Wales
Command: /tool traceroute 5.79.68.79 size=60 count=1

traceroute to 5.79.68.79 (hosted-by.seedhost.eu), 64 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1 ip-103-85-36-9.syd.xi.com.au (103.85.36.9) [AS 134090] 0.2ms 0.2ms 0.2ms
 2 static-77.110.255.49.in-addr.VOCUS.net.au (49.255.110.77) [AS 4826] 2.1ms 2.1ms 2.1ms
 3 be112.cor01.syd11.nsw.vocus.network (114.31.192.38) [AS 4826] 91.6ms 91.6ms 91.6ms
 4 be200.lsr01.brdg.nsw.vocus.network (103.1.77.0) [AS 38809] 91.3ms 91.3ms 91.3ms
 5 be803.lsr01.stpk.wa.vocus.network (103.1.76.145) [AS 38809] 91.3ms 91.3ms 91.3ms
 6 be201.cor01.per04.wa.vocus.network (103.1.77.105) [AS 38809] 91.2ms 91.2ms 91.2ms
 7 81.52.200.171 (81.52.200.171) [AS 5511] 251.1ms 251.1ms 251.1ms
 8 81.52.200.100 (81.52.200.100) [AS 5511] 262ms 262ms 262ms
 9 * * *
10 * * *
11 * * *
12 hosted-by.seedhost.eu (5.79.68.79) [AS 60781] 276.4ms 276.4ms 276.4ms
SuperLoop Below

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Router: [SYD] Equinix SY1
Command: traceroute ipv4 5.79.68.79 source lo0



Sun Oct 11 11:15:28.459 UTC

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 5.79.68.79

 1   * 
    fortygige0-0-1-0.bdr01-ipt-4edenpar-syd.au.superloop.com (103.200.13.175) [MPLS: Label 24031 Exp 0] 93 msec  93 msec 
 2  WelcomeToIndigoCentral.bdr01-ipt-4millros-per.au.superloop.com (103.200.13.153) [MPLS: Label 64012 Exp 0] 93 msec  93 msec  93 msec 
 3  fortygige0-0-1-2-132.bdr01-ipt-15pionee-sin.sg.superloop.com (202.177.40.22) 93 msec  93 msec  93 msec 
 4  te0-0-2-1.rcr11.b057205-0.sin01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.18.3.89) 93 msec  93 msec  93 msec 
 5  be2070.ccr21.sin01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.40.13) 93 msec  93 msec  93 msec 
 6  be2435.ccr21.mrs01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.109) 226 msec 
    be3429.ccr22.mrs01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.85.17) 230 msec 
    be2435.ccr21.mrs01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.109) 226 msec 
 7  be3093.ccr42.par01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.50.165) 242 msec  241 msec 
    be3092.ccr41.par01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.49.153) 237 msec 
 8  be12266.ccr42.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.56.173) 260 msec 
    be12265.ccr41.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.2.141) 245 msec  245 msec 
 9  be3434.rcr21.ams06.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.59.50) 250 msec 
    be3433.rcr21.ams06.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.58.202) 246 msec 
    be3434.rcr21.ams06.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.59.50) 250 msec 
 10 leaseweb.demarc.cogentco.com (149.14.93.2) 268 msec 
    149.6.0.202 266 msec 
    leaseweb.demarc.cogentco.com (149.14.93.26) 268 msec 
 11  *  *  * 
 12  *  *  * 
 13 hosted-by.seedhost.eu (5.79.68.79) 268 msec  268 msec  268 msec
Launtel Below

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Command: tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="5.79.68.79" interface=vlan-backbone

 1 somnus.launtel.net.au              0%    1   0.3ms     0.3     0.3     0.3
 2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au     0%    1  10.6ms    10.6    10.6    10.6
 3 sy5.gslnetworks.com.au             0%    1  10.4ms    10.4    10.4    10.4
 4 be6065.ccr51.syd01.atlas.coge...   0%    1  92.8ms    92.8    92.8    92.8
 5 be2429.ccr51.per01.atlas.coge...   0%    1  96.7ms    96.7    96.7    96.7
 6                                  100%    1 timeout
 7 be2435.ccr21.mrs01.atlas.coge...   0%    1 226.7ms   226.7   226.7   226.7
 8 be3092.ccr41.par01.atlas.coge...   0%    1 236.1ms   236.1   236.1   236.1
 9                                  100%    1 timeout
10 be3433.rcr21.ams06.atlas.coge...   0%    1 246.9ms   246.9   246.9   246.9
11 149.6.0.238                        0%    1 267.4ms   267.4   267.4   267.4
12 be-11.cr02.ams-01.nl.leaseweb...   0%    1 267.8ms   267.8   267.8   267.8
13 po-1006.ce02.ams-01.nl.leasew...   0%    1 268.6ms   268.6   268.6   268.6
14 5.79.68.79                         0%    1   272ms     272     272     272

Re: Changing NBN providers

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:29 pm
by Wamuran4512CH
Rain wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:24 pm Games i play without VPN (Future Broadband routing Sydney NSW)

International with Future Broadband (AAPT) TPG isn't the best of times so it seems
By extension, this is tacit admission that the TPG AAPT "IP-Line" or whatever, isn't valid outside their network or to any network beyond their control. It is more of a marketing term as the OSI layers are standard for compatibility.
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This is also why speed testing to test servers MUST be outside their network or control or cross border / international to test peering arrangements if sufficient bandwidth and port speeds have been acquired.

Therefore when an RSP like Aussie BB states test against "our server", it is purely to make it easier administratively to collect data which really isn't a true measurement to begin with.

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Peering arrangements aren't expensive per month per port - peering is like booking Port 1 of a 16 port Gigabit switch with Telstra on port 2, Optus on port 3 and so on and the Gigabit switch is owned and managed by eg Megaport or Equinix, who have their own DC and fibre protected links to other places. Some refuse to peer and instead have their own domestic and international links, having acquired eg dark fibre or submarine cables.

2011 data:

http://researcharchive.vuw.ac.nz/xmlui/ ... sequence=2
thesis.pdf
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San Francisco Bay Area port costs per annum:

https://www.sfmix.org/connect/guide

and many many more - one can also find out the costs in AU ( some are free ). Costs are decreasing, not increasing.

https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/p ... ion-market

https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/peering

https://www.telstrawholesale.com.au/con ... elines.pdf

http://www.bgp4all.com.au/pfs/_media/co ... design.pdf
menog13-ixp-networkdesign.pdf
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A good DC and peering exchange is at Artarmon NSW - Australian Liquidity Center Gore Hill ( typically run by Keppel DC ):

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/insi ... ers-2015-9

https://www.keppeldatacentres.com/locat ... australia/

Re: Changing NBN providers

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:58 am
by Rain
Last test for picking an ISP as well as other factors

StarCraft II
Region IP Address
The Americas
24.105.30.129 (US West)
24.105.62.129 (US Central)

LeapTel Looking Glass below

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Router: New South Wales
Command: /tool traceroute 24.105.30.129 size=60 count=1

traceroute to 24.105.30.129 (24.105.30.129), 64 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1 equinixix.syd.xi.com.au (103.85.36.6) [AS 134090] 0.2ms 0.2ms 0.2ms
 2 57976.syd.equinix.com (45.127.173.41) [] 6.7ms 6.7ms 6.7ms
 3 et-0-0-49-br01-eqsy4.as57976.net (137.221.85.47) [AS 57976] 145.2ms 145.2ms 145.2ms
 4 xe-0-0-1-0-br01.csla1.as57976.net (137.221.65.96) [AS 57976] 145.1ms 145.1ms 145.1ms
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 6 137.221.68.77 (137.221.68.77) [AS 57976] 144.7ms 144.7ms 144.7ms
 7 24.105.30.129 (24.105.30.129) [AS 57976] 145.5ms 145.5ms 145.5ms

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Router: New South Wales
Command: /tool traceroute 24.105.62.129 size=60 count=1

traceroute to 24.105.62.129 (24.105.62.129), 64 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1 equinixix.syd.xi.com.au (103.85.36.6) [AS 134090] 0.2ms 0.2ms 0.2ms
 2 57976.syd.equinix.com (45.127.173.41) [] 0.9ms 0.9ms 0.9ms
 3 et-0-0-49-br01-eqsy4.as57976.net (137.221.85.47) [AS 57976] 190.9ms 190.9ms 190.9ms
 4 xe-0-0-1-0-br01.csla1.as57976.net (137.221.65.96) [AS 57976] 190.9ms 190.9ms 190.9ms
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 8 et-0-0-0-pe01-eqch2.as57976.net (137.221.69.47) [AS 57976] 190.8ms 190.8ms 190.8ms
 9 24.105.62.129 (24.105.62.129) [AS 57976] 191.9ms 191.9ms 191.9ms
League of Legends online
Servers: NA - IP: 104.160.131.3

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Router: New South Wales
Command: /tool traceroute 104.160.131.3 size=60 count=1

traceroute to 104.160.131.3 (104.160.131.3), 64 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1 ixaustralia.syd.xi.com.au (103.85.36.7) [AS 134090] 0.2ms 0.2ms 0.2ms
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OverWatch Servers
24.105.30.129 (US West) & 24.105.62.129 (US Central)

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Router: New South Wales
Command: /tool traceroute 24.105.30.129 size=60 count=1

traceroute to 24.105.30.129 (24.105.30.129), 64 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1 equinixix.syd.xi.com.au (103.85.36.6) [AS 134090] 0.3ms 0.3ms 0.3ms
 2 57976.syd.equinix.com (45.127.173.41) [] 6.7ms 6.7ms 6.7ms
 3 et-0-0-49-br01-eqsy4.as57976.net (137.221.85.47) [AS 57976] 145.2ms 145.2ms 145.2ms
 4 xe-0-0-1-0-br01.csla1.as57976.net (137.221.65.96) [AS 57976] 145.1ms 145.1ms 145.1ms
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 6 137.221.68.77 (137.221.68.77) [AS 57976] 145.1ms 145.1ms 145.1ms
 7 24.105.30.129 (24.105.30.129) [AS 57976] 145.4ms 145.4ms 145.4ms

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Router: New South Wales
Command: /tool traceroute 24.105.62.129 size=60 count=1

traceroute to 24.105.62.129 (24.105.62.129), 64 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1 equinixix.syd.xi.com.au (103.85.36.6) [AS 134090] 0.2ms 0.2ms 0.2ms
 2 57976.syd.equinix.com (45.127.173.41) [] 1ms 1ms 1ms
 3 et-0-0-49-br01-eqsy4.as57976.net (137.221.85.47) [AS 57976] 191ms 191ms 191ms
 4 xe-0-0-1-0-br01.csla1.as57976.net (137.221.65.96) [AS 57976] 190.9ms 190.9ms 190.9ms
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 8 et-0-0-0-pe01-eqch2.as57976.net (137.221.69.47) [AS 57976] 190.5ms 190.5ms 190.5ms
 9 24.105.62.129 (24.105.62.129) [AS 57976] 191.9ms 191.9ms 191.9ms
Diablo 3 Server ip: 24.105.30.129

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Router: New South Wales
Command: /tool traceroute 24.105.30.129 size=60 count=1

traceroute to 24.105.30.129 (24.105.30.129), 64 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1 equinixix.syd.xi.com.au (103.85.36.6) [AS 134090] 0.2ms 0.2ms 0.2ms
 2 57976.syd.equinix.com (45.127.173.41) [] 11.5ms 11.5ms 11.5ms
 3 et-0-0-49-br01-eqsy4.as57976.net (137.221.85.47) [AS 57976] 175.6ms 175.6ms 175.6ms
 4 xe-0-0-1-0-br01.csla1.as57976.net (137.221.65.96) [AS 57976] 145.2ms 145.2ms 145.2ms
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 6 137.221.68.77 (137.221.68.77) [AS 57976] 145.6ms 145.6ms 145.6ms
 7 24.105.30.129 (24.105.30.129) [AS 57976] 145.4ms 145.4ms 145.4ms
World of warcraft servers:
The Americas
137.221.105.2 (US West)
24.105.62.129 (US Central)

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Router: New South Wales
Command: /tool traceroute 137.221.105.2 size=60 count=1

traceroute to 137.221.105.2 (137.221.105.2), 64 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1 equinixix.syd.xi.com.au (103.85.36.6) [AS 134090] 0.2ms 0.2ms 0.2ms
 2 57976.syd.equinix.com (45.127.173.41) [] 0.8ms 0.8ms 0.8ms
 3 et-0-0-49-br01-eqsy4.as57976.net (137.221.85.47) [AS 57976] 150.1ms 150.1ms 150.1ms
 4 xe-0-0-1-0-br01.csla1.as57976.net (137.221.65.96) [AS 57976] 150.1ms 150.1ms 150.1ms
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 7 et-0-0-0-pe01-swlv10.as57976.net (137.221.83.81) [AS 57976] 149.8ms 149.8ms 149.8ms
 8 137.221.105.2 (137.221.105.2) [AS 57976] 150.1ms 150.1ms 150.1ms

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Router: New South Wales
Command: /tool traceroute 24.105.62.129 size=60 count=1

traceroute to 24.105.62.129 (24.105.62.129), 64 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1 equinixix.syd.xi.com.au (103.85.36.6) [AS 134090] 0.2ms 0.2ms 0.2ms
 2 57976.syd.equinix.com (45.127.173.41) [] 3.9ms 3.9ms 3.9ms
 3 et-0-0-49-br01-eqsy4.as57976.net (137.221.85.47) [AS 57976] 239.8ms 239.8ms 239.8ms
 4 xe-0-0-1-0-br01.csla1.as57976.net (137.221.65.96) [AS 57976] 276.4ms 276.4ms 276.4ms
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 8 et-0-0-0-pe01-eqch2.as57976.net (137.221.69.47) [AS 57976] 190.8ms 190.8ms 190.8ms
 9 24.105.62.129 (24.105.62.129) [AS 57976] 191.9ms 191.9ms 191.9ms
Superloop looking glass test below

StarCraft II
Region IP Address
The Americas
24.105.30.129 (US West)
24.105.62.129 (US Central)

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Router: [SYD] Equinix SY1
Command: traceroute ipv4 24.105.30.129 source lo0



Sun Oct 11 16:10:41.893 UTC

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 24.105.30.129

 1  fortygige0-0-1-0.bdr01-ipt-47bourke-syd.au.superloop.com (103.200.13.229) [MPLS: Label 24055 Exp 0] 150 msec  149 msec  149 msec 
 2  hundredgige0-0-1-2-120.bdr01-ipt-624sgran-lax.us.superloop.com (103.200.13.168) 149 msec  149 msec  149 msec 
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Router: [SYD] Equinix SY1
Command: traceroute ipv4 24.105.62.129 source lo0



Sun Oct 11 16:16:50.834 UTC

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 24.105.62.129

 1  fortygige0-0-1-0.bdr01-ipt-47bourke-syd.au.superloop.com (103.200.13.229) [MPLS: Label 24055 Exp 0] 149 msec  149 msec  150 msec 
 2  hundredgige0-0-1-2-120.bdr01-ipt-624sgran-lax.us.superloop.com (103.200.13.168) 149 msec  149 msec  149 msec 
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League of Legends online
Servers: NA - IP: 104.160.131.3

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Router: [SYD] Equinix SY1
Command: traceroute ipv4 104.160.131.3 source lo0



Sun Oct 11 16:23:07.359 UTC

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 104.160.131.3

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OverWatch Servers
24.105.30.129 (US West) & 24.105.62.129 (US Central)

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Router: [SYD] Equinix SY1
Command: traceroute ipv4 24.105.30.129 source lo0
Sun Oct 11 16:28:10.786 UTC
Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 24.105.30.129
 1  fortygige0-0-1-0.bdr01-ipt-47bourke-syd.au.superloop.com (103.200.13.229) [MPLS: Label 24055 Exp 0] 150 msec  149 msec  * 
 2  hundredgige0-0-1-2-120.bdr01-ipt-624sgran-lax.us.superloop.com (103.200.13.168) 149 msec  149 msec  149 msec 
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Router: [SYD] Equinix SY1
Command: traceroute ipv4 24.105.62.129 source lo0
Sun Oct 11 16:33:56.988 UTC
Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 24.105.62.129
 1  fortygige0-0-1-0.bdr01-ipt-47bourke-syd.au.superloop.com (103.200.13.229) [MPLS: Label 24055 Exp 0] 149 msec  149 msec  149 msec 
 2  hundredgige0-0-1-2-120.bdr01-ipt-624sgran-lax.us.superloop.com (103.200.13.168) 149 msec  149 msec  149 msec 
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Diablo 3 Server ip: 24.105.30.129

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Router: [SYD] Equinix SY1
Command: traceroute ipv4 24.105.30.129 source lo0



Sun Oct 11 16:39:36.920 UTC

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 24.105.30.129

 1  fortygige0-0-1-0.bdr01-ipt-47bourke-syd.au.superloop.com (103.200.13.229) [MPLS: Label 24055 Exp 0] 149 msec  149 msec  149 msec 
 2  hundredgige0-0-1-2-120.bdr01-ipt-624sgran-lax.us.superloop.com (103.200.13.168) 149 msec  149 msec  149 msec 
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World of warcraft servers:
The Americas
137.221.105.2 (US West)
24.105.62.129 (US Central)

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Router: [SYD] Equinix SY1
Command: traceroute ipv4 137.221.105.2 source lo0



Sun Oct 11 16:44:55.600 UTC

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 137.221.105.2

 1  fortygige0-0-1-0.bdr01-ipt-47bourke-syd.au.superloop.com (103.200.13.229) [MPLS: Label 24055 Exp 0] 149 msec  149 msec  149 msec 
 2  hundredgige0-0-1-2-120.bdr01-ipt-624sgran-lax.us.superloop.com (103.200.13.168) 149 msec  150 msec  149 msec 
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Router: [SYD] Equinix SY1
Command: traceroute ipv4 137.221.105.2 source lo0



Sun Oct 11 16:44:55.600 UTC

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 137.221.105.2

 1  fortygige0-0-1-0.bdr01-ipt-47bourke-syd.au.superloop.com (103.200.13.229) [MPLS: Label 24055 Exp 0] 149 msec  149 msec  149 msec 
 2  hundredgige0-0-1-2-120.bdr01-ipt-624sgran-lax.us.superloop.com (103.200.13.168) 149 msec  150 msec  149 msec 
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Launtel below (Looking Glass)

StarCraft II
Region IP Address
The Americas
24.105.30.129 (US West)
24.105.62.129 (US Central)

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Command: tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="24.105.30.129" interface=vlan-backbone

 1 somnus.launtel.net.au              0%    1   0.2ms     0.2     0.2     0.2
 2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au     0%    1  10.1ms    10.1    10.1    10.1
 3 sy5.gslnetworks.com.au             0%    1  10.2ms    10.2    10.2    10.2
 4 la2.gslnetworks.com                0%    1 143.7ms   143.7   143.7   143.7
 5 206.72.211.247.any2ix.coresit...   0%    1 144.4ms   144.4   144.4   144.4
 6 ae1-br02-csla1.as57976.net         0%    1 144.4ms   144.4   144.4   144.4
 7 xe-0-0-1-3-br02-eqla1.as57976...   0%    1   144ms     144     144     144
 8 137.221.68.91                      0%    1   144ms     144     144     144
 9 lax-eqla1-ia-bons-03.as57976.net   0%    1 144.2ms   144.2   144.2   144.2
 10 24.105.30.129                      0%    1   145ms     145     145     145

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Command: tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="24.105.62.129" interface=vlan-backbone

 1 somnus.launtel.net.au              0%    1   0.1ms     0.1     0.1     0.1
 2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au     0%    1  10.1ms    10.1    10.1    10.1
 3 sy5.gslnetworks.com.au             0%    1  10.1ms    10.1    10.1    10.1
 4 la2.gslnetworks.com                0%    1 143.7ms   143.7   143.7   143.7
 5 206.72.211.247.any2ix.coresit...   0%    1 144.2ms   144.2   144.2   144.2
 6 ae1-br01-csla1.as57976.net         0%    1 190.7ms   190.7   190.7   190.7
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10 et-0-0-0-pe04-eqch2.as57976.net    0%    1   190ms     190     190     190
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League of Legends online
Servers: NA - IP: 104.160.131.3

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Command: tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="104.160.131.3" interface=vlan-backbone

 1 somnus.launtel.net.au              0%    1   0.2ms     0.2     0.2     0.2
 2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au     0%    1  10.1ms    10.1    10.1    10.1
 3 sy5.gslnetworks.com.au             0%    1  10.4ms    10.4    10.4    10.4
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Command: tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="104.160.131.3" interface=vlan-backbone

 1 somnus.launtel.net.au              0%    1   0.2ms     0.2     0.2     0.2
 2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au     0%    1  10.1ms    10.1    10.1    10.1
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OverWatch Servers
24.105.30.129 (US West) & 24.105.62.129 (US Central)

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Command: tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="24.105.30.129" interface=vlan-backbone

 1 somnus.launtel.net.au              0%    1   0.2ms     0.2     0.2     0.2
 2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au     0%    1  10.3ms    10.3    10.3    10.3
 3 sy5.gslnetworks.com.au             0%    1  10.5ms    10.5    10.5    10.5
 4 la2.gslnetworks.com                0%    1 143.6ms   143.6   143.6   143.6
 5 206.72.211.247.any2ix.coresit...   0%    1 144.3ms   144.3   144.3   144.3
 6 ae1-br02-csla1.as57976.net         0%    1 144.4ms   144.4   144.4   144.4
 7 xe-0-0-1-3-br02-eqla1.as57976...   0%    1   144ms     144     144     144
 8 137.221.68.91                      0%    1   144ms     144     144     144
 9 lax-eqla1-ia-bons-03.as57976.net   0%    1 144.2ms   144.2   144.2   144.2
10 24.105.30.129                      0%    1 145.5ms   145.5   145.5   145.5

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Command: tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="24.105.62.129" interface=vlan-backbone

 1 somnus.launtel.net.au              0%    1   0.2ms     0.2     0.2     0.2
 2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au     0%    1  10.1ms    10.1    10.1    10.1
 3 sy5.gslnetworks.com.au             0%    1  10.1ms    10.1    10.1    10.1
 4 la2.gslnetworks.com                0%    1 143.6ms   143.6   143.6   143.6
 5 206.72.211.247.any2ix.coresit...   0%    1 144.2ms   144.2   144.2   144.2
 6 ae1-br01-csla1.as57976.net         0%    1 190.9ms   190.9   190.9   190.9
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10 et-0-0-0-pe04-eqch2.as57976.net    0%    1 191.5ms   191.5   191.5   191.5
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Diablo 3 Server ip:

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Command: tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="24.105.30.129" interface=vlan-backbone

 1 somnus.launtel.net.au              0%    1   0.1ms     0.1     0.1     0.1
 2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au     0%    1  10.2ms    10.2    10.2    10.2
 3 sy5.gslnetworks.com.au             0%    1  10.4ms    10.4    10.4    10.4
 4 la2.gslnetworks.com                0%    1 143.6ms   143.6   143.6   143.6
 5 206.72.211.247.any2ix.coresit...   0%    1 144.3ms   144.3   144.3   144.3
 6 ae1-br02-csla1.as57976.net         0%    1 144.3ms   144.3   144.3   144.3
 7 xe-0-0-1-3-br02-eqla1.as57976...   0%    1 143.7ms   143.7   143.7   143.7
 8 137.221.68.91                      0%    1 144.1ms   144.1   144.1   144.1
 9 lax-eqla1-ia-bons-03.as57976.net   0%    1 186.6ms   186.6   186.6   186.6
10 24.105.30.129                      0%    1 145.1ms   145.1   145.1   145.1
World of warcraft servers:
The Americas
137.221.105.2 (US West)
24.105.62.129 (US Central)

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Command: tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="137.221.105.2" interface=vlan-backbone

 1 somnus.launtel.net.au              0%    1   0.2ms     0.2     0.2     0.2
 2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au     0%    1  10.1ms    10.1    10.1    10.1
 3 sy5.gslnetworks.com.au             0%    1  10.3ms    10.3    10.3    10.3
 4 la2.gslnetworks.com                0%    1 143.7ms   143.7   143.7   143.7
 5 206.72.211.247.any2ix.coresit...   0%    1 158.7ms   158.7   158.7   158.7
 6 ae1-br01-csla1.as57976.net         0%    1 158.8ms   158.8   158.8   158.8
 7                                  100%    1 timeout
 8                                  100%    1 timeout
 9 et-0-0-0-pe04-swlv10.as57976.net   0%    1 159.1ms   159.1   159.1   159.1
10 las-swlv10-ia-bons-04.as57976...   0%    1 149.4ms   149.4   149.4   149.4
11 137.221.105.2                      0%    1 149.2ms   149.2   149.2   149.2

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Command: tool traceroute count=1 use-dns=yes address="24.105.62.129" interface=vlan-backbone

 1 somnus.launtel.net.au              0%    1   0.2ms     0.2     0.2     0.2
 2 134697.cust.gslnetworks.com.au     0%    1  10.2ms    10.2    10.2    10.2
 3 sy5.gslnetworks.com.au             0%    1    11ms      11      11      11
 4 la2.gslnetworks.com                0%    1 143.6ms   143.6   143.6   143.6
 5 206.72.211.247.any2ix.coresit...   0%    1 145.8ms   145.8   145.8   145.8
 6 ae1-br01-csla1.as57976.net         0%    1 192.3ms   192.3   192.3   192.3
 7                                  100%    1 timeout
 8                                  100%    1 timeout
 9                                  100%    1 timeout
10 et-0-0-0-pe04-eqch2.as57976.net    0%    1 190.1ms   190.1   190.1   190.1
11                                  100%    1 timeout
12                                  100%    1 timeout
13                                  100%    1 timeout
14                                  100%    1 timeout
15                                  100%    1 timeout
Now to see which ISP i pick this week to churn too

Re: Changing NBN providers

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:02 pm
by Rain
Update: Signed up to Leaptel - awaiting for email details among churn anytime today or tomorrow

Re: Changing NBN providers

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:04 pm
by Dawn Thunder
Good Choice. I have a lot of respect for this ISP. Like the ethos of the place.
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